This week is a busy one for me, so I’m turning the blog over to some other fun humans while I get caught up on life.
Today’s post comes from Mrs. and Mr. Chaos over at Cutting Through Chaos.
Side note: Doesn’t “Mr. Chaos” totally sound like a James Bond villain? Wait, don’t click away yet! Mr. Chaos is the opposite!
I first started chatting with Mr. Chaos over the internet last year and found him to be a thoughtful and interesting person. And then I met him in person and found that all of my preconceptions were completely correct. Mr. and Mrs. Chaos are top-notch folks who I’m very happy to call my friends. Plus, anyone who comes up with the title “Poo-
Side note #2: The dinosaur artwork is from Mrs. Chaos! If I was twice the artist I am now, I’d still only be 25 percent as good as her. Love it!
Take it away Mr. Chaos!
I’m not half the ‘man’ I used to be
Before you jump to conclusions based on the title of this post, it is NOT about my emergency vasectomy – more about that another day. Perhaps. It’s only been a year and everything is still a little raw. The MEMORIES. Just the memories! And before anyone points out there is no such thing as an ‘emergency’ vasectomy, You. Are. Wrong. When you have an ‘equipment malfunction’ during a ‘date night’, and Mrs. Chaos threatens to cancel further ‘date nights’ until it is medically impossible for her to get pregnant again (we already have 4 kids!), that is called an EMERGENCY vasectomy. But given our stories of dealing with our kids – whether it’s the poo, or the tooth fairies – you’ll no doubt be wondering why this wasn’t taken care of earlier.
So with that out of the way, we can get back to the click-bait headline.
How do you raise a daughter?
Raising a daughter can be tough when The World indoctrinates girls with what they can and can’t do. You need to look pretty, have a career and be a super mom, all at the same time. And whatever career you choose, you’ll probably get paid less than the boys.
So how on earth do we raise our 7-year-old daughter so that she doesn’t listen to the limitations set for her by The World, and instead chooses her own path? Having a strong female role model like Mrs. Chaos for a mother is one step in the right direction.
But what are the things I can do as a father?
This is such a huge topic, that one post can’t do it justice. And Mr. 1500 threatened to delete the rest of the post once he got bored.
Mr. 1500 note: I threatened to do no such thing! As a father of two young girls, almost every day is a fight against pink stuff and unicorns with sparkles. Why can’t girls like computers and rockets? Carry on Mr. Chaos…
But here are a few of the things I try to do:
- Praising my daughter for her actions, not her appearance. So often when we meet kids we tell girls how cute they are but we praise boys for their abilities. When my girl is brave, that’s what I tell her. When she shows me her artwork, I compliment her creativity. When she is goofing off, I let her know how funny she is (and that her funniness was inherited from me…). And when she’s being her normal self, I just tell her she’s awesome. But don’t get me wrong, I think she is the most beautiful girl in the world, and every now and then I do tell her that.
- Focusing on health rather than appearance. Praising actions rather than appearance is great, but what do I tell my daughter when
Mrs. Chaos decides she needs to go on a diet and our daughter wants to understand why? I try and steer these conversations towards the health benefits of exercising and eating food that’s good for you. Rather than the impact on ourwaist lines . I also encourage exercise by going running and swimming with her – even though my swimming style is best described as ‘frog inblender ’. But in all seriousness, this is going to be a tough one as she gets older and more aware of her appearance.

- Avoiding stereotypical jokes or phrases. Such as ‘crying like a girl’, or ‘throwing like a girl’. My three boys cry just as much as my daughter, particularly when she throws things at them. These phrases reinforce stereotypes, and I’m trying to cut them out. They are much more common than you think once you start noticing them – ‘woman driver’ anyone?
And the reverse is also true, with male phrases seen as positive. If someone needs to be braver, they are typically told to ‘man up’ or ‘grow a pair’ (HANG ON, why are we talking about the vasectomy AGAIN!).
Some of this stuff is just so ingrained, that it takes a lot of effort – and a real desire to change. I’m really trying.

- Being willing to relinquish ‘male’ roles. My wife has a knack for figuring out how things work. If something in our house breaks, my kids run off to find mom to fix it. Even if I’m sitting right there. Which is fine, unless my father-in-law is also sitting there. By way of background, his expectation is that a ‘man’ should be a mixture of MacGyver (since you’re reading Mr 1500’s blog you should be old enough to remember him) and Chuck Norris – all whilst eating a platter of half-cooked red meat. So ‘fixing things’ is something the MAN takes care of. Anyway, this used to make me feel like I was only half a ‘man’, but why should it? Mrs. Chaos is significantly* better at fixing things than I am, not least because she’s an accomplished engineer. I love the fact that she stepped into a traditionally male role and has experience being the only woman on many of the work sites she managed. I know how difficult that was, and I think it’s a great example for our daughter (and our sons). So if this makes me Ben Stiller from Meet the Fockers, then so be it.
- Being willing to take on ‘female’ roles or qualities. I’d love to say that I cook all of our meals. But I don’t and it’s not because I think cooking is a female role – it’s because my better half cooks amazing food and I burn toast. But I am the one that tidies and keeps some semblance of order in the house. That means picking up Mrs. Chaos’ dirty clothes from the bedroom floor and closing the open cupboards and drawers she leaves open all over the house. (If anyone has a solution
for this problem, there is a reward**. Her current record is 10 opencupboards / drawers in the kitchen – but she’s a high achiever and I’ve no doubt she’ll beat that one day….)
And I am most definitely the sympathetic parent if one of our kids is sick. My wife has many wonderful qualities, but sympathy would not be in her top 10 (or possibly top 100…). I know how it feels to be at death’s door and to receive ‘sympathy’ from my wife… It’s best that the kids come to me when they are sick.
- Modeling a strong relationship with my wife in which my actions and words demonstrate respect and love, and reflect a true partnership. It means appreciating ALL of Mrs. Chaos’ many qualities, and not just her beauty or cooking skills.
I want to give my daughter every chance to be the best version of herself, and that’s a pretty positive motivator in living out some of the above.
But I’d be lying if I didn’t acknowledge that fear is also a big driver. I know that girls often marry versions of their father. That terrifies me. But also motivates me to become the type of person I’d want my daughter to marry***. Which will require becoming at least TWICE the man I currently am.

* Mrs. Chaos edited this post and may have added a few words
** To be paid in Zimbabwean dollars
*** For the record, my daughter knows that she’s not allowed to start dating until I’m dead…
Thank you to Mr 1500 for lowering his standards to allow me to post on his site. One of the things that hooked me on FI was a story I heard Mr. 1500 telling on a podcast about one of his daughters getting a hard time because she didn’t have the right brand of toys. That story really resonated with me and was part of my journey into this movement. To be writing on Mr 1500s site a few months later is a little surreal. It was a real highlight for my wife and I to meet the 1500s at a Chautauqua recently. And by the way, here’s our perspective on the right toys!!!
About: Cutting Through Chaos (cuttingthroughchaos.com) is our take on life and how to navigate a path through the craziness of four young kids while living abroad. We’re ‘blessed’ with an opinionated 7 year old, an off-the-wall 4 year old and a pair of risk-seeking 2 year olds. We would love to connect with you through the website, at twitter on @cuttingchaos, or on email at cuttingchaos@gmail.com. Thank you for reading!
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Glad that the Chaos’s (Chaosi!?) are modeling great behavior for the small humans! Happy Chaos! (heading over to check out your blog)
There’s always going to be filters and assumptions to be challenged and overcome, but awareness is the first step and conscious effort the second.
Having met the 1500’s and their daughters, I think they’re on the right course.
I’ve grown out of some of my younger arrogant obliviousness and realized that everyone has their own unique set of strengths and weaknesses… regardless of (and because of) gender, race, identity, etc.
I try to treat everyone as a random human – we all have built in biases, but attempting to grapple with them is the only path I see worth following…
Oh, and Carl, you can have sparkles on pink rockets you know – nothing wrong with that (personally, I prefer a good plaid)
Hi Wendy,
‘Chaosi’ – I love it!! I agree that the first step is recognizing that we all have our own biases.
I think Mr 1500 should put sparkles all over his dinosaurs. And having spent time with Mr and Mrs 1500, I have no doubt that they are raising two exceptional daughters.
Thank for checking out cuttingthroughchaos.com – we really do appreciate it.
Second the sparkly rockets. Sparkles and rockets/engineering things aren’t mutually exclusive!
4 kids! wow! How are you even having time to type anything? I’ve just got one…and thank god my mom watches him because day care would charge us for like 20 kids!
My dad did pretty traditional male things, but I think I turned out ok…of course I care how I look- but to my own standards, not to other peoples’. Of course my dad is the generation of “samurai” in Hawaii- come home, sit down, and expect dinner on the table. Seriously. I demonstrably did NOT marry a guy close to being like my dad. (though I love them both…just in vastly different ways).
Staying at home with my mom taught me a lot of $ saving things: how to plan meals, budget, cook, mend, clean (ugh!), do research….that sort of thing.
I think all people should know both sides: cleaning, cooking, keeping house, fixing stuff, mowing their own damn yard, mechanical things. Else you will just get ripped off in your ignorance.
And Mr. 1500- I LOVE sparkly stuff. And I’m an engineer- used to work for an aerospace co. making rockets and jets.. So they are not mutually exclusive. Shiny stuff is awesome- all people like shiny stuff, just different types.
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Hi Cathleen,
I am getting used to having sparkles everywhere – and as you note, balance is key. It doesnt have to be a choice between engineering or sparkles – you can combine them. We are still figuring all of this stuff out, and if we can lower a couple of barriers for our daughter, we’ll try to do that. But she’s a determined little girl, and will make her own path.
PS – its 8am, and I checked out your blog, and I wish I hadnt. Not because its not great, but because all the amazing food pictures are making me hungry! And I’ve downloaded your orange scones recipe. sounds amazing.
Thanks! The scones are great for a tea party, btw. That’s good that she’s determined- I think everyone should be able to forge their own way. Of course when I was little I went through a bunch of different ideas what I wanted to be when I grew up- but plans change, and there’s ALOT more options than a little kid knows.
A tea party it is then!
As the father of two college age daughters I have tried to make them think without restrictions based on gender. A few years ago my father died and I inherited his tools and toolbox. With that I now had two of everything, screwdrivers, sockets,you name it. So as a Christmas present I gave them to my oldest daughter and she is taking a shop class at the tech school in Madison. She had already taken an auto repair class there as well. I wanted her to think that she can do whatever she wants and that she should be responsible for herself. I have done the same with personal finance, teaching them how money works and that you need to take responsibility for your life. She gets it. She works really hard, pays her own way, grows her own food, has traveled the world on her own dime and is a very confident young women. My youngest is now getting to the same place. She took a little longer due to her soccer career, but now that she has retired she understands the value of the dollar and how she needs to be responsible for herself.
I guess my point is that if you want strong girls don’t treat them as week. Challenge them to step up and do things with them that you would do with your sons.
Hi John. I hope our daughter grows up with the same confidence and ownership of her life as your daughters clearly have done. I’d also love her to value soccer as much as I have – but am still working on that one! Keep up the good work.
I jumped at this post and jumped to the conclusion I was amongst Stone Temple Pilots fans (the song Creep has a similar refrain). I wasn’t thinking about vasectomies at all (ha, ha)! Anyhow, I really appreciate the concerns about raising a seven-year-old daughter. I worked with 1st/2nd graders at one point and really tried to study the girls’ early concerns about beauty, babies, and work. I don’t have a daughter yet, but I consider my time with those little sweethearts to be insightful. Even at such a young age, they are balancing a lot, comparing themselves to each other, and comparing themselves to the boys.
Its also a lyric from ‘Yesterday’ by the Beatles…. I love the concept of a FI blog for creatives.
I’ve wondered from time to time if being a teacher for early grade kids would help you as a parent – the insights you will have picked up will be invaluable when it comes to your parenting. Thanks for reading the post despite the first paragraph – that really should have come with a parental advisory warning….
“My three boys cry just as much as my daughter, particularly when she throws things at them.”
LOL. Love this. I can relate. I throw things at Wanderer to make him cry all the time.
This post is hilarious…and I can hear Mrs.Chaos’s voice in my head reminding me: “Mr. Chaos can be funny–but only when I edit him.” Nice work, Mrs. Chaos with the edits and the ball busting! (OMG. Do we have to talk about the vasectomy AGAIN? Yes, yes we do).
Miss you guys!
FC – you do realize that we now may have to reconsider meeting up with you guys. And not just because of the editting comment.
I mean, how on earth would our three boys and Wanderer survive if you and our daughter ganged up on them?!?
@firecracker – It’s all about the editing…wink, wink. Although my throwing arm must need some work as I definitely veto’d that first paragraph!
Looking forward to crossing paths with you guys this year!